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Comp Help

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 03:30
by Todeshändler
Ok guys Im having some problems with FPS , mostly just in 25man instances.
Lowering every thing to low does not change this, 8-15 fps during fights and 20-25fps standing around.

comp specs are

Windos Vista Home Premium OS
AMD 64x2 4200+ Processor 2.21 GHz
BFG 7950GT OC (PCI-E) Video card
Nforce 430 Motherboard
2 x 1gig PC677 DDR2 Corsair Value RAM

Only thing i can think is that Vista is just that bad.
I do have a full Win XP home edition that i could install, but i dont have a way to put vista back if i decided to.

thanks

Re: Comp Help

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 03:44
by Cartollomew
Todeshändler wrote:Ok guys Im having some problems with FPS , mostly just in 25man instances.
Lowering every thing to low does not change this, 8-15 fps during fights and 20-25fps standing around.

comp specs are

Windos Vista Home Premium OS
AMD 64x2 4200+ Processor 2.21 GHz
BFG 7950GT (PCI-E) Video card
Nforce 430 Motherboard
2 x 1gig PC677 DDR2 Corsair Value RAM

Only thing i can think is that Vista is just that bad.
I do have a full Win XP home edition that i could install, but i dont have a way to put vista back if i decided to.

thanks
Vista is pretty fuckin' bad.
We won't install Home Premium on machines that use on-board video; that's how demanding it is to do nothing at all. Or play cards.

If you're confident doing so and have the hard disk space, you can always dual-boot. (or buy a hard drive just for XP)

Otherwise, I'd ditch Vista until such time as it actually becomes good or necessary to have, which will usefully coincide with a plethora of ways to pirate it.

Not that I would ever condone such an activity.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 03:48
by Katryna
I have vista too.. and despite having a stupidly powerful machine i get similar frame rates.. I've just learnt to accept it.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 05:18
by derelictfrog
Video card could be the only lacking thing, i dont have vista but it lagging wow isnt good o_0

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 05:33
by Todeshändler
derelictfrog wrote:Video card could be the only lacking thing, i dont have vista but it lagging wow isnt good o_0
hummm, its well above what WOW requires.

Re: Comp Help

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 05:36
by Todeshändler
Cartollomew wrote:
Todeshändler wrote:Ok guys Im having some problems with FPS , mostly just in 25man instances.
Lowering every thing to low does not change this, 8-15 fps during fights and 20-25fps standing around.

comp specs are

Windos Vista Home Premium OS
AMD 64x2 4200+ Processor 2.21 GHz
BFG 7950GT (PCI-E) Video card
Nforce 430 Motherboard
2 x 1gig PC677 DDR2 Corsair Value RAM

Only thing i can think is that Vista is just that bad.
I do have a full Win XP home edition that i could install, but i dont have a way to put vista back if i decided to.

thanks
Vista is pretty fuckin' bad.
We won't install Home Premium on machines that use on-board video; that's how demanding it is to do nothing at all. Or play cards.

If you're confident doing so and have the hard disk space, you can always dual-boot. (or buy a hard drive just for XP)

Otherwise, I'd ditch Vista until such time as it actually becomes good or necessary to have, which will usefully coincide with a plethora of ways to pirate it.

Not that I would ever condone such an activity.
Ok , i have a 75g HD that i do not use any longer, i poped it in reformated it with the tool that vista has and its clean.
I tried to install XP on it, vista wont let me, so i unhooked Vista HD, set this clean one to Master and tried to boot and no go, I also tried booting CDrom frist with XP disk in it as well, this does not work.
any help, i would be so greatfull.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 09:22
by Sorha
I have a moderately decent computer as below with Vista.
My major issue is my motherboard limiting my CPU because of an old BIOS version.
(Anyone who can give me step by step instructions to flash it without a floppy drive or in windows app can do so:P)

I think Vista and WoW just do not get on.

The single biggest gain I can get in WoW is turning OFF the windowed mode check boxes.

In WoW I get: (1680*1050)
Shattrah: 30-50 fps
Just out and about: 60-80 fps
Raiding: 15-30 fps

I get (With Max settings in games):
3dMark06: 10100 3dMarks
Lost Coast: 160 fps
CS:S: 215 fps
Supreme Commander: 15500 score

Windows Experience Index
Processor: 5.3
Memory: 5.9
Graphics: 5.9
Gaming Graphics: 5.9
Hard Disk: 5.9
Total: 5.3

Computer:
OS: Windows Vista Home Premium
CPU: Intel E6850 @ 2.4ghz (Motherboard BIOS limited)
Graphics: Nvidia 8800gtx
Motherboard: Abit AB9 Pro
RAM: 2 x 1gig PC800 DDR2 Corsair RAM

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 11:29
by Xact
Sorha comp is better than mine, yet i get better frame rates (same res, settings etc). So its gotta be vista, its a memory whore, and chews ur graphics card.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 12:15
by Todeshändler
Windows Experience Index
Processor: 5.0
Memory: 5.9
Graphics: 5.9
Gaming Graphics: 5.7
Hard Disk: 5.6

this is my scores form the vista page.
my FPS is about the same was what your posting with every thing max
16xAF 8sxAA 1280x1224 is max rez for me tho, lowering all setting realy does not help my FPS at all, just makes the game look like crap.
oh i have nothing OC'd but my video card came pre OC'd from BFG.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 12:16
by Cartollomew
Tode, I'll need a little more information.

1) Is it POSTing okay?
2) If so, does it display any error messages instead of booting?
3) Do you have your boot order (in the bios) set to boot from CD-ROM first?

If you want, you can just try mashing F8 from the moment the machine starts; some newer systems will open a boot menu when you do that, which will allow you to choose to boot from CD-ROM as a one-off.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 12:32
by Todeshändler
Cartollomew wrote:Tode, I'll need a little more information.

1) Is it POSTing okay?
2) If so, does it display any error messages instead of booting?
3) Do you have your boot order (in the bios) set to boot from CD-ROM first?

If you want, you can just try mashing F8 from the moment the machine starts; some newer systems will open a boot menu when you do that, which will allow you to choose to boot from CD-ROM as a one-off.
When i boot with the clean HD it comes up with options to change BIOS setting or got to a boot list, and i can chose HD/CDROM but when i chose CDROM it tells me to put in system disk and hit enter but it, does nothing when i hit enter.

I tried setting it to CD ROM then HD as the boot order as well but it did not help.

Posted: 12 Oct 2007, 13:04
by Cartollomew
Odd. Do other bootable CDs work?

Could be that your disc is cactus (or not bootable)... or your CDROM